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Zero for this battle. you saw the vice president making his pitch in louisville. when you're talking about your constituents, curelearly there' difference on the ideology between republicans and democrats. what are you saying to your constituents? >> we're just beginning to finally make inroads. we're making sure that everyone in kentucky understands that obamacare and theffordabl care act are the same thing. people love the affordable care act in kentucky. more than a half million people have gotten coverage under the affordable care act. people with insurance already have protections now the...

Convinced they can get the freedom caucus to go along. politically it is completely untenable for the republican party not to do something on blake. what that looks like, who knows. >> and who know what kind of agreement there is inside the party at this point. >> seas exactly it. what you have trump vowing to do, according to people in the oval office last week is hes said o would go out and campaign in the state -- >> kentucky, rand paul. hello. i. >> i think the trip to kentucky was as much as about rand paul as it was people in the as youens. >> let's say it gets passed as it. obamacare ha...

The the same law, they're warming to it. that's why i can't conceive why president trump would come to kentucky to undermine it. so that's kind of interesting that pence would come here. >> vice president pence the one visiting kentucky. back when democrats were trying to pass obamacare, nancy pelosi had that sort of now infamous quote about you have to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it, now there's criticism for republicans for moving too fast on this. isn't that hypocritical? >> we had 79 hearings. we had numerous estimates of what the cost would be, what the coverage levels woul...

We were required to, we will offer health care when we are no longer required to but from a planning perspective, it is absolutely impossible to predict what our obligation is going to be. >> joining me from minneapolis, andy slavitt, jamie peters. andy, you're the guy that ran obamacare under the old administration. talk to me about what small businesses can expect to see if this new health care bill, this new plan, goes into effect. >> thanks for having me. i think the thing we are seeing from the details that have been released so far of this new bill is that costs for the average person pe...

Estimate as early as today which is pretty key to the future of this republican health care bill. we have members of the gop say we don't know how much it costs yet, how can we debate it? >> reporter: we're expecting to hear from the cbo numbers a lot of raspberry won't like. they ran on the idea that make is too expensive. number one is they're going to argue this is a three-part plan, the bill that we're putting forward is just part one. parts two and three will make a difference in bringing costs down. but the other part of their argument is that the cbo has just been wrong, that when obama...