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For the aca expressly modeled for the citizens of all states to be eligible for tax credits whether served directly by state exchange oar by federal exchange. i'm not an elected official, nor am i a political advisor. i'm an economist who ran a complex microsimulation model to help republican and democratic politicians and their advisors understand the impact that their policies would have on health care systems. the recent response to my comments at academic conferences exceeds my relevance in health care reform. i behaved badly, i will have to live with that but my own inexcusable arrogance ...

Least have independent analysis of numbers you delivered before, actually, to massachusetts for that matter too, but to the federal government based on your statements that in fact if people knew the truth they wouldn't, and that there was a deception in our own thing? all i want, i want to go to the ranking member, but is there any reason you would not approve the idea that there should be independent validation of the numbers you used in light of the statements that we've seen you made? >> i think that the quality of my numbers should not be reflected by comments i made whereas conjecturing ...

Dr. gruber is a liar then or now. to say the bill was transparent is another insult to the american people. remember, members of congress said they never lead it. -- read it. how could it be transparent if nobody ever read it? testimony he gave under oath he can't recall. only testimony he can recall is the part on tape. it is obvious that they created a deceptive model, that made it look like you were going to save money and, people like me and thousands of others were saying, you can't cover 10,000, 20,000 more people and save money. that is idiotic. he actually believes that all of us were ...

Annoyed, this is not unusual for a professor to use his intellectual ability to deceive the american people to serve his ideology. going on way we educate our american children at some left-wing universities. this is a professor who admitted he lied. appears if some lies are under oath. he just can't recall. he is teaching our young people, how many more are like that, create a deceptive model to help a liberal or left-wing democrat get something accomplished? martha: evidenced by videos he saw in the room, says as part of his excuse i was speaking to technical and academic audiences. i'm stru...

Is deceptive model. you know what that is defined under 18 united states code? we you call that fraud. we call that fraud. if i produce a deceptive model and you pay me for it you have have committed a crime for fraud. is anybody going to suggest that, had this been an evangelical institution and republican involved, all those democrats there would be yelling for fraud investigation of what would happen with the institution and with him. he was paid to deliberately produce a model that had a major impact on the american people. at least, prima facia it fits the definition of fraud. martha: he ...