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What donald trump and rick scott are trying to spin as the narrative of what's happening in florida, that's this completely baseless claim of voter fraud, votes being made up, this sort of thing. look, as you said in the intro, rachel, trump kind of ran a version of this in 2016 including in the last presidential debate, saying he wouldn't accept the results of the election if he lost. and now i think, you know, how did he finally win? he won by razor thin margins in wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan on election day. if those states go against him by razor thin margins in 2020, he'll try to di...

Sort of pr campaign being waged by the president, by rick scott, by the republican party. you've described this as something that we should maybe see as a kind of dry run for how the president might contest his own election results if he lost in 2020. as a veteran of all the things you've been involved in and you've seen, why do you make that case about what's happening in florida now? >> look, we have to separate what's really happening on the ground in florida, which is a process whereby ballots are being counted, they're being recounted pursuant to law, that's what it should be, from what d...