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Say there is eminent domain to consider, you're talking with ranchers, what did they tell you about that issue? >> some of the ranching community is split but the majority seem to be in favor of a wall because every day they are facing turmoil from what they call, especially mr. chilton, call people coming across "the druggers" ." 15 years ago he said it was people who were coming to work and get jobs for their family, now he's seeing influence of the cartels, and when you look at human trafficking in particular, these people being smuggled are facing horrific things as they are coming, especi...

Should we care? but the giant kangaroo rat is the amazing ecosystem engineer. it's bringing out the rich soils from deep in the earth, pulling them up to the surface. by doing can change the ecosystem. it's also benefitting the ranching community by increasing the i diddiverseity of plants. >> reece, in terms of pieces of the food chain, right. we're at the top of it right. we rarely concern ourselves with what happens to smelt or the kangaroo rat but the ripple effects are pretty profound aren't they? once you take one piece out? >> yeah in this case this kriter is a keystone and you're talki...

With my ranching community in coches county and i think of the murdered rancher, those folks, these are hard working american citizens, they happen to live on the suz-mexico border and they're living in fear. two hundred forty thousand illegal immigrants apprehended in the tucson sector last year, over a million pounds of marijuana. we have a serious problem going on here. that's really where we should be focusing our efforts now. martha: democratic congresswoman from arizona, as you point out, from the district, where robert crentz, whose family had ranched on that land since the early 1900s ...