the side of the hill. and it feels like you re going underground and it feels like you re being entombed. you definitely have an immediate feeling of isolation. even though i was with a small group of other attorneys, we felt ace lited. you felt like a rat in a cage. the former warden richard wood he described a sentence at this prison much worse than death. i wanted to play a little more of what he told us. sure. you re designing it so the inmates can t see the sky intentionally. you re putting up wire so helicopters can t land in your open areas. you re having an abundance of staff. you re doing everything you can to say these people are dangerous. i know you ve been to a lot of prisons. i mean is this really as some described it, a cleaner version hell the worst of the worst? it s a good description.