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Tell us what the rate height means for folks at home. >> good to see you, carley, good to be on. the d.c. military policy talk for average american of whom i am one. the government has been spending money it doesn't have and the second thing it has been doing is issuing bonds, securities and a third thing we can't do in our households which is great money. my wife and i say to our kids money doesn't grow on trees. the feds have been making $4.6 trillion and i have been saying and you have been saying for a couple of years that will come home to roost. that is what we are living through and thi...

Harry reid. i'm sorry. harry's not here today. >> okay. stand-up comedy goes, it wasn't all that funny. but props and all, david axelrod. over the weekend everybody seems to be trying to say it's your fault, no your fault. but if there is a serious impact on the u.s. economy, either because of uncertainty or later on down the road we see a rate height with the debt ceiling or producing this feeling that the u.s. economy cannot be relied on why should i hire people and invest in my business, in the end the president risks getting some of the blame for this, doesn't he? >> yeah. i don't think th...