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Jenna: just before here on the east co, obamacare front and center on on capitol hill today as health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius takes the hot seat. hello, everybody, i'm jenna lee. eric: and hello, i'm eric shawn in for jon scott. let's take a look at some live pictures from the senate finance committee will secretary sebelius is taking questions on the president's budget request. orrin hatch asked about numerous changes and the delays to the obamacare law. the secretary, well, she pushed back saying the administration just wants to give consumers greater flexibility. >> w...

Message of kind, that we've turned the corner here and people are enrolling that could be troublesome. there are polls that suggest, that show that there is support for keeping the law and fixing it. a majority support. that there is also high support among republicans for repealing it entirely. what has democrats concerned is that that kind of 30% or so, that support repealing the law entirely are those who are going to turn out in the election year. that's why you're seeing them push all of these other issues on capitol hill. jenna: so again what does that mean, john, for republicans in do t...

Plans. i don't, i do not have data to give you right now in terms of who exactly was previously uninsured. we are collecting that. >> reporter: critics say five or six million people may have had policies that were sold on the open market that didn't meet the standards, and they say that indicates only a couple million of the new sign-ups are people who were newly insured. jenna: we'll see if we can get some of those hard numbers that can tell us exactly who's part of the 7.5 million. wendell, every day there seems to be a new study about the effects of obamacare, and there's a new one out by ...

The american people, but also to countries like the baltic states and poland and ukraine who are beginning to bend under putin's pressure. the united states is disarming and putin is moving against eastern ukraine. that is not a good narrative, jenna. jenna: these are really serious topics. general scale, i appreciate when i ask you questions you sort of laugh and smile bit because it makes it easier to take in and think about. more of a friendly way to talk about it. general scales, thank you. serious topics we'll continue to watch it. no end in sight as far as conflict happening between russ...

Complete control. i think they have the upper hand in general going forward. the impact of the law is hurting a lot more people than it is helping. if you look at some polls recently in gallup, by two to one margin people say they have been hurt. jon: rather than helped by the law. i keep my eye on the law. people's own experiences with the law and friends will have biggest impact. jenna: they will feel the impact, as you point out john, over the past few months as they live with the law. final question for both of you. big picture if you will. an interesting article what we can expect in 2014...