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But i will say it is not only fox news that shoulders the news here. cnn deserves its share of blame because they have a top ten criteria here and if they were honest about making sure this was a process where all of the candidates got a fair hearing they would split it down the middle and say a through k, you go in this debate. m through z, you are in the next one. >> david, go ahead. >> why have one debate when you can have two? particularly for ratings for fox. the debate will be a big rating booster. so if you -- don't do it in the top and bottom ten. mix it up. maybe there's a way to come...

Particularly for ratings for fox. the debate will be a big rating booster. so if you -- don't do it in the top and bottom ten. mix it up. maybe there's a way to come up with a final four or round robin way to do this. so people who poll well afterwards can get a special post-debate appearance. is many creative ways to do this. what do you think, joy? >> they have turned it in to the republican version of "the hunger games." >> if only. if only. >> the survivor or something. i think from a pure standpoint of allowing voters to have real choice, i think, yes, all of the 25 or 38 or however many ...