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Bill: are your colleagues still with you on this? >> absolutely. bill: are some of them -- >> i'm very confident of that. no -- that's a media narrative. not only are members confident in moving forward, we know that this is essential to saving medicare , getting the debt under control, keeping the promise to current seniors and stop the damage that omabacare does to medicare, and getting jobs created. you have to get this debt under control to create jobs. we don't think we ould be messing with current seniors' medicare, so we do this, and what we -- why we're so confident is we know the trut...

Or older is not affected. now, why are points like that being lost in this public debate? >> points like that are being lost because millions of dollars of negative ads are being run to try and scare seniors and confuse seniors. the irony of this bill is with all this mediscare the democrats are running it's omabacare that ends medicare as we know t. it takes half a trillion dollars from medicare, not to to make it more solvent but to spend on the other government program, omabacare, then it creates a new 15-panel board of unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats starting next year to price contro...

[inaudible] >> we're going to sink in paralysis. that's what's going to happen. you know the math. bill: explain the point you were making there. it's a point i make publicly. we're leading. we know the math. he knows the math. medicare is going bankrupt. we've got to do something to save it. we're leading, an by putting a plan on the table, and yes, we know the other side wants to use mediscare tactics, if that succeeds, medicare itself goes bankrupt, then we have a debt crisis. we're trying to fix this problem, be a part of the solution rather than a part of the problem. the other thing is...

Bill: what do we do, huh? minutes from now i'll talk to house budget committee chairman paul ryan, he will tell us what he plans to tell the president during their white house meeting today. we'll talk about the debate over medicare. paul ryan on deck, 20 minutes away here in "america's newsroom". >> it probably happens every single day on a plane, the passenger in front of you reclines the seat all the way back, leaving you with zero leg room. but when it happened on a united airlines flight, fists were felony and f16s were scrambled. take a listen: >> united 990, want the passenger secured. ...