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Sick a whole lot more than everybody else. we think that's a smart way to go, choice in competition, giving the senior the power to deny business, the inefficient providers. the alternative to this, david, is a rationing scheme, are the 15 bureaucrats the president's going to point next year on his panel to ration medicare spending. we don't think we should give the government the power to ration spending to seniors. we want to give future seniors the ability to make choices, and we want to subsidize people who are middle income and lower income and sycamore than we subsidize the wealthy, and ...

I have problems with people who aren't offering any solutions, who are just playing politics. now, as far as the costs are concerned, here's what we propose. if you're under 55, when you become medicare eligible, you get to pick among a guaranteed coverage options provided by and regulated by medicare. we don't subsidize the wealthy nearly as much as middle income, and we subsidize the poor and sick a whole lot more than everybody else. we think that's a smart way to go, choice in competition, giving the senior the power to deny business, the inefficient providers. the alternative to this, dav...

Government. this is only part of the left wing dreamteam formed in order to ram through bills like cap and tax. my next guest outlines this and more in his new book called "power grab" "new york times" best selling author chris horner. steal your freedom and bankrupt america. how? >> well, by moving decisions from individuals. producers and consumers to the state. what you can drive, fuel mix what you can use, how much you can use of it. we use the word rationing. cap and trade, the cap is a rationing scheme, an energy rationing scheme. under which they give the first two years allowances rati...

This is only part of the left wing dreamteam formed in order to ram through bills like cap and tax. my next guest outlines this and more in his new book called "power grab" "new york times" best selling author chris horner. steal your freedom and bankrupt america. how? >> well, by moving decisions from individuals. producers and consumers to the state. what you can drive, fuel mix what you can use, how much you can use of it. we use the word rationing. cap and trade, the cap is a rationing scheme, an energy rationing scheme. under which they give the first two years allowances ration coupons a...

Substantive shift in legislation. get the reason why i say checkmate, i use that terminology i assume now that the democratic party will say, we incorporated some of your ideas. what's with it? that's what you wanted we gave it to you now you are complaining and won't vote for it. >> this entire bill is the problem. the entire architectural framework of this legislation, which represents a government take over of health care is what we have a problem with. we want this entire piece of legislation all 2700 pages put it on the shelf and start over with a clean sheet of paper. don't add a few dec...