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Not. so zuckerberg is saying root he things, talking the talk. we have to see if this company will walk the walk in the future. but i thought this was a positive step that he is talking about security, saying they're hiring more people, trying to manage what is all over facebook. because let's make no mistake, the russian trolls that tried to attack the 2016 in they're getting more creative in future elections. and it's not just russia. >> you mentioned the 2016 election. he talked about election meddling, joult, let's listen and we'll talk. >> know wlag you know now do you believe facebook im...

Analytica to you juliette. this is me personally and some of the people i know. i find myself not going on facebook as much because it became so toxic. it was -- the comments were sort of -- the fake news i would see things that had cnn on it. i was like that is not a cnn product. you click on it there was no cnn product. i wonder how many people feel the same sort of thing that i'm feeling. >> facebook is starting to see that, starting to see a decline in time spent that's the threat to the business model. because if you rely less on facebook in your life that's the threat to the business mod...

That. the question about whether cambridge analytica or nonfrom the trump campaign provided the russians with the raw facebook data and the disinformation campaign that somehow influenced the election. that's the big -- and will robert mueller look into that? >> well he is looking into it. remember in the indictments against the russians facebook is mentioned several times. there is this sort of not -- we don't know it yet but not yet proved connection between the different actors. what he will say is that the trump campaign's insistence now that cambridge analytica was a second rate data mana...

That cambridge analytica was a second rate data management. >> not helpful. >> that had to do with the trump campaign is a bogus explanation. we know when trump won there was focus on the data team led by or chaired by jared kushner and what they were able to do with the information cam principle analytica had. there are strong ties. whether mueller is connecting all of those circles we don't know yet. but he is looking. >> that's got to be the last word. thank you fascinating conversation. i could talk to you both about it all night. it would be great if facebook with people like me who have ...

They were to stop it. let's go back to the first point, which is there is a reason why they didn't do this before. and that's because their business model depends on the selling of information. that business model will have to change or we will have to change. one or the other. but it's -- you know, we just have to face up to it that facebook is not the victim here. >> go ahead, brian. >> i think thinking about cambridge analytica what they are facing. facebook certainly under pressure to come and testify on capitol hill. zuckerberg said he is willing to come to capitol hill. that's a big chan...