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Says the man is low energy, when you do brain surgery for 15 hours, you know, when you do normal surgery, if you cut a blood vessel, you can patch it. you cut nerves in the brain, there's no patching. imagine being under that kind of pressure for 15 hours. i think that's not low energy. that's concentration and inner strength. but anyway, that's an aside. i couldn't help it. i had do it as a doctor. but carson will be under pressure to show that he has a more elaborate idea than tithing, which he raised in one of the other debates as a model for taxation, and he's going to have to elaborate on...

The first time. he is running third in the rcp average. he has to show his strength and he might have over power trump. the other will be carly fiorina. her rise was fueled by two spectacular debates. she has subsided some what as a result of the fact that she is out of the spotlight. that puts a lot of pressure on you because that's extremely hard to do. >> an american airlines plane is targeted by one of the laser beams in san diego. striking the pilot in the plane as he approached the airport. the flight landing safely at this hour. still unclear if the pilot was injured or taken to the hos...

About george bush. jeb bush responding about donald trump and 9/11 saying that it was a security failure for it to happen under george w. bush's watch and that a president trump possibly could have stopped 9/11 as you look live now in anderson, south carolina. donald trump holding another rally, the campaign says some 5,000 people there clearly he is getting the numbers at all of these events. and he is getting the numbers in polls. the latest "wall street journal"/nbc poll has trump at 25%. his highest mark in this particular poll. there you see ben carson trailing just behind. marco rubio on...

It's you, it's terry. not me. >> bret: virginia gubernatorial candidates going at it this weekend and it's an interesting race because it reflckets on the country as a whole. it's the biggest race really for this cycle in 2013. take a look at the latest polls. if you look at the rcp average there is a lot of numbers on the screen there but for the most part you have mcauliff lead be. the roanoke was different there, 7/14. if you look at the latest from quinnipiac, that race has mcauliff up four. we're back with the panel. charles, what about this race and its implications? >> you are right. ge...

Just a few rogue agents in cincinnati. but now you are seeing a growing number of people who believe it was directed by higher ups in washington and that will bring down the president's ratings. martha: some people have called for the president to come out, wrap his arms around the situation. talk to the american people about it. we did see that maybe that's the format he's turning to to try to turn the tide. will that be enough? >> it depends on the facts of the case. if we find out the nsa has more people under surveillance or is collecting more information than we think. a news report will ...