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Co-author of "spy the lie." phil, great to see you. >> good to see you as well. >> what most of america did not know is in the days after baby lisa went missing, you and another partner went to interview deborah and jeremy about the disappearance. and you went in with an open mind. it's on the it's on the tapes. you say i'm not you say i'm not here to represent you, i'm here to represent the baby. >> correct. >> and i may bring this to the police, this is going to be an open interview. why did you set the stage like that? >> i wanted -- she'd been through a ton of questioning. as had jeremy. a...

Co-author of "spy the lie." phil, great to see you. >> good to see you as well. >> what most of america did not know is in the days after baby lisa went missing, you and another partner went to interview deborah and jeremy about the disappearance. and you went in with an open mind. it's on the it's on the tapes. you say i'm not you say i'm not here to represent you, i'm here to represent the baby. >> correct. >> and i may bring this to the police, this is going to be an open interview. why did you set the stage like that? >> i wanted -- she'd been through a ton of questioning. as had jeremy. a...

Co-author of "spy the lie." phil, great to see you. >> good to see you as well. >> what most of america did not know is in the days after baby lisa went missing, you and another partner went to interview deborah and jeremy about the disappearance. and you went in with an open mind. it's on the it's on the tapes. you say i'm not you say i'm not here to represent you, i'm here to represent the baby. >> correct. >> and i may bring this to the police, this is going to be an open interview. why did you set the stage like that? >> i wanted -- she'd been through a ton of questioning. as had jeremy. a...