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Incentive on the part of the russians to try to use diplomacy to reach a stable modus operandi and they would grab what they wanted under biden. and when he had the kind of exit from afghanistan which he did, and then when he essentially took america out of energy independence, increasing the leverage of russia dramatically, i thought it was inevitable. >> bret: you say russia gate was horrible. >> the mainstream media is talking about the big lie, and the stolen election. they are forgetting that there was a big lie at the beginning of the administration of the trump administration. and that ...

. >> russia gate kept the administration done for the first half of his administration. when biden won i felt there would be no incentive on the part of the russians to try to use diplomacy to use a stable modus operandi and they would grab what they wanted under biden. >> bret: former attorney general bill barr had a prediction in his book about if president biden was the president what russia would do and they are doing it we are back with our fan. mara, what do you take from the interview. >> i thought there were really two interviews in one. one was bill barr's, you know, blaming the left ...