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Surge and announced a withdrawal at the same time, so this is a big change. >> it is. in many respects, the most important thing president trump said was that we are committed to afghanistan and there is not a timeline and his decisions will be based on conditions on the ground. that's the only way to fight a war if you're at all serious about it and i think it's very positive indication of the change of his thinking. >> heather: his detractors say the exact opposite and that he is now making this an urban engine newer. >> the only way you can close this is to lose, you don't control war, you ...