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Sanctions and isolation of russia as long as putin is in charge. i will also say that i would agree with what we just heard from john kirby about not escalating nuclear response because russia has escalated their own readiness level. we have to avoid nuclear war. there's a lot more the u.s. could be doing to help the ukrainians as they're facing these conventional attacks from russia. >> martha: what would you recommend? what more could we be doing? >> well, first off, the intelligence sharing. my understanding is that we have begun to restrict intelligence sharing so we're not complicit in ta...

Button. you cannot take that stuff off of the table, the whorl the world will see it for what it is, he does not just face one nuclear power in united states but three, the brits are there and french are there i don't know he wants to go there. you can't lit lit him make an assumption, you have to tell him that in advancement. he has to know he can't do that. you have to tell him that up front. for example, when we -- he was talking about the special combat readiness and increasing his ability to use nuclear weapons, we canceled a nuclear exercise, a test of one of our missiles, what we should...

Button. you cannot take that stuff off of the table, the whorl the world will see it for what it is, he does not just face one nuclear power in united states but three, the brits are there and french are there i don't know he wants to go there. you can't lit him make an assumption, you have to tell him that in advancement. he has to know he can't do that. you have to tell him that up front. for example, when we -- he was talking about the special combat readiness and increasing his ability to use nuclear weapons, we canceled a nuclear exercise, a test of one of our missiles, what we should hav...

Nuclear war, right? and putin has used -- has used nuclear threat very effectively. he communicated right off, it was the fourth day of the war that he pulled out the nuclear card, or even in his speech inaugurating the invasion. he mentions it over and over again. and then he raises the readiness level of his strategic deterrent forces and it worked. it works. it works to keep nato and the united states out. and what we're also realizing, having spent so much time thinking about is how this deterrent worked between two nuclear-armed states we haven't spent nearly enough time to think about ho...

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