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Secretary rice, this bill, who wins or luszs? >> well, the winners are people who are lerly people healthier. and the losers are people who are poorer. we don't know exactly how much the winners are going to win and the how much the losers are going to lose, because the cbo haept scored yet. but undoubtedly, there's going to be money on the table, and that money is going to go to a tax cut for wealthy individuals and to private corporations. and i use these words, this is morally repugnant. >> bob, i mean you know there were millions and millions americans across the country who are facing inc...

Tonight, the gop health care bill has cleared its first hurdle in congress. the next step obviously a tough sell in the senate. house lawmakers passed the plan to repeal and replace obamacare without waiting for the congressional budget office to score the bill which means no one knows what it will cost or which people will lose their health coverage. back in march, the cbo said the original bill that was introduced would leave 24 million more people uninsured by 2026. joining me now is former labor secretary robert reich, the author of "saving capitalism for the many, not the few." also, stev...

Would change. they're not as generous as they would be structured in the affordable care act. also that money that has been so crucial to the funding and insurance of more than 11 million americans with obamacare. and you also have them charging older enrollees just three times more than younger inreallies. i think this is also a big deal. incrux of this, the willingness to allow states to opt out of price protections for those of with pre-existing conditions. again, this was a late change for the bill. it's one republicans say democrats are blow blowing out of proportion, but their willingess...

To score this. >> well, would i rather have 72 hours, 96 hours to read every page of the bill? yeah, but let's face it it was nancy pelosi who said we'll read the bill after we pass it when obamacare came to play. >> which they attacked her for. >> democrats are being hypocr e hypocritical when they "you didn't read the bill" well none of them read the bill that transformed one seventh of our economy. but the big debate is a conflict of visions. i was listening to your debate earlier about whether we should move towards government-run system. it's something robert reich is very much in favor o...

Up all over the country, even for people not in obamacare, that is a problem, but it's a problem that is a generic problem right now. we have to get control over those health insurance costs but how can you say obamacare, the affordable care act, was cruel or a burden to people? that's absurd. >> well, let me answer the question, because every promise that barack obama made about obamacare turned out to be a lie. it's not true that in many cases you can keep your own hospital and provider and insurance companies. it's not true the average family saved $2, 500 a year. most families are paying $...