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As the ball got rolling, if all that -- >> from hit spotting trayvon martin, to getting out of his vehicle, to following, whether all of that could play a role in -- >> determining the self-defense or not. >> did you feel like you understood the instructions from the judge? because they were very complex. i mean, reading them, they were tough to follow. >> right. and that was our problem. i mean, it was just so confusing what went with what and what we could apply to what. because, i mean, there was a couple of them in there that wanted to find him guilty of something. and after hours and hour...

Whether the things that had brought george zimmerman to that place -- >> exactly. >> -- not just in the minute or two before the shot actually went off -- >> exactly. >> -- but earlier that day, even prior crime? >> not prior crime, just -- just the -- the -- the situation leading to it. all the steps. as the ball got rolling, if all of that -- >> from him spotting trayvon martin -- >> exactly. >> -- following him, whether all of that could play a role in -- >> determining the self-defense or not. uh-huh. >> did you feel like you understood the instructions from the judge? because they were ve...

All the steps. as the ball got rolling, if all that -- >> from hit spotting trayvon martin, to getting out of his vehicle, to following, whether all of that could play a role in -- >> determining the self-defense or not. >> did you feel like you understood the instructions from the judge? because they were very complex. i mean, reading them, they were tough to follow. >> right. and that was our problem. i mean, it was just so confusing what went with what and what we could apply to what. because, i mean, there was a couple of them in there that wanted to find him guilty of something. and after...

This boy, or if it was just at the heat of passionate that moment. >> so that juror wanted to know whether the things that had brought george zimmerman to that place, not just in the minute or two before the shot actually went off. >> exactly. >> but earlier that day, even a prior crime? >> not prior crimes, just the situation leading to it, all the steps -- as the ball got rolling. >> him spotting trayvon martin, whether all of that could play a role in -- >> determining the self-defense or not. >> did you feel like you understood the instructions from the judge? because they were very comple...

Understood the instructions from the judge? because they were very complex. i mean, reading them, they were tough to follow. >> right. and that was our problem. i mean, it was just so confusing what went with what and what we could apply to what. because, i mean, there was a couple of them in there that wanted to find him guilty of something. and after hours and hours and hours of deliberating over the law and reading it over and over and over again, we decided there's just no way -- other place to go. >> because of the two options you had, second degree murder or manslaughter, you felt neithe...