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Records but records from the phone companies. there's no expectation of privacy once you turn your records over to another company. no one listening to anyone's phone because, reading e-mails, phone number to phone number. no identification, address, location. >> congressman, when you look at polls two-thirds of americans aren't comfortable with this program. they want changes. don't they need to listen. >> what they are concerned about, think we're listening to phone calls, reading e-mails, they are not. if they knew maybe 1/1,000% listened to at all, after court orders, justice department. w...

Reading anything. >> it is wrong though what we did to germany. >> we will get to that. >> maybe we can get her a back rub or something. >> the point is, nobody is reading e-mails. all they can see is the front of the envelope. when people say reading e-mails they are being dishonest. bill, you tweet your whereabouts and your thoughts almost every hour of the week while high. how can you be offended by the nsa? >> i am not offended by the nsa, but nobody is reading their e-mails according to the nsa. i always go back to that. i say 20 years ago we didn't even know they existed. we are supposed...

Patriot for what he had done. that was the response to it. will this n.s.a. program change? there are a lot of americans upset. will it change now under president obama? remember he kreut sighed president bush -- criticized president bush and a lot of his policies. i think it's pretty much going to stay the same. >>eric: tucker is right. they have the ability and they are spying on all 350 million americans. the only problem is they don't have the law behind them. it is not legal to spy on americans. the fisa, foreign intelligence surveillance act, foreign, has to be one of the factors when yo...

Like bradley giving information to wikileaks and snowden giving information to americans. >> we had somebody onn attorney who actually takes those things on. i agree they went out of the loop and deserve what they get. >> absolutely. >> but when you have a national security agency shrouded in it, part of your job is knowing. do you know if these guys are reading e-mails? >> the stuff that snowden uncovered is only the tip of the iceberg. the technology they want to bring online is terrifying. in 1975 we had frank church warn us on "meet the press" if nsa ever takes giant listening ears and tur...

Like bradley giving information to wikileaks and snowden giving information to americans. >> we had somebody on here, an attorney who actually takes those things on. i agree they went out of the loop and deserve what they get. >> absolutely. >> but when you have a national security agency shrouded in it, part of your job is knowing. do you know if these guys are reading e-mails? >> the stuff that snowden uncovered is only the tip of the iceberg. the technology they want to bring online is terrifying. in 1975 we had frank church warn us on "meet the press" if nsa ever takes giant listening ears...