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Upsmanship by releasing the readout first. donald trump will declare success with this. this is something donald trump will say, listen, we should have a good working relationship and get past the fact he called our intelligence community hacks and liars. somehow he's brought reform. as you mentioned on the mueller investigation, all things lead back to the mueller investigation. what we are seeing in congress is a bit of a side show, questioning his credibility. mueller is dealing with the matters of law and fact, not politics. he will have the final say in this. >> ambassador, if you are abl...

Not just that you had the rushz foreign minister in the oval office and you also had the russian ambassador the united states who is really such a central player in these ongoing investigations and the russians are smart when it comes to propaganda. anytime a u.s. and russian president talk, we always get the kremlin's readout first. they played the white house on this fronts today. they got these images out quickly and to these security concerns, this is something you started to hear from people in agencies and trump's orbit that there's been a naivety to the russians, that he maybe didn't un...

The soviet news agency. that was an unbelievable visual from the oval office. an event american journalists were not allowed to record. >> they were not allowed to be in this meeting and the fact this meeting happened at all. not just that you had the rushz foreign minister in the oval office and you also had the russian ambassador the united states who is really such a central player in these ongoing investigations and the russians are smart when it comes to propaganda. anytime a u.s. and russian president talk, we always get the kremlin's readout first. they played the white house on this fr...

Agency. people who are a certain age remember the expression "the soviet news agency tass." julie, that was an unbelievable visual from the oval office, an event american journalists were not allowed to record. >> absolutely. the white house press corps was not allowed to be in this meeting. and the fact that that meeting happened at all, i think it's important for people to understand how extraordinary it is. not just that you had sergei lavrov, the russian foreign minister sitting in the oval office, but you also had sergey kislyak, who is the russian ambassador to the united states, who is ...