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Things unifying the country. take some of the heat against him off. at that point, people were so angry. hostage crisis. they felt humiliated. >> do you think carter, don't want to beat this to death. i find this fascinating. people reflexively backhand and dismiss him. i think is terrible. the one thing i do think, he lacked sef eed self awareness. was he aware of how he was coming across. look who succeeds him, so velvety and so smooth from the character. >> a lot, attribute to their background. you don't want a small business guy elected president. he is used to doing it all himself. reagan...

Is my shepherd" i checked with susan. they definitely knew that one. we are sure on that one. some of the other family members. must have been our father. kissed him on the forehead. and, reagan, i got from, he apparently said according to tip "thanks for coming, tip." >> from what i can tell, from the book, you thought reagan was a good president. you rank him high. >> in the end i think he is going to make the big top 12, top 10. just a fact. because -- he was able. >> based on facts or based on -- >> i think just national morale. the country was through nixon. johnson, nixon, carter, ford. ...

Guys. did it at normandy, around the world, brought back morale, we will win this fight. america is back. reagan believed in the hollywood ending. he convinced gorbachev of the hollywood ending how he ended the cold war. one guy's belief in what we can do, and americans, and the other guy, they probably can. >> you worked with carter? >> different guy than reagan. >> do you think carter got a bad rap? >> carter was right about everything. the irony. he was a pacifist. carter, obama is a dove, no pacifist. he can use the military. >> you think carter was a dove. >> hurt him a lot. >> were you s...

Problem. one of the stories. i didn't know how tip want to moscow in '85, told goerbachev s coming. we are behind him. believe him this guy wants to get rid of nuclear weapons. he said that. backed him up. that kind of stuff is unimaginable. >> what is unimaginable. we were prepping for this show. how the section on page 73, 74, tip o'neill going to reagan's hospital room. >> i was stunned by the story when i found it. the reagan guy told me. the only guy in the room. tip came in, down on bethennyot. this was great, jim baker, mrs. reagan, a friend of moon nine n. they understood the need for ...

How many decisions, how can i work this, reorganize. >> reagan turned to great communicator. the number one job of the president. tip who worked against him would say, i come back to the meeting all he had was 3 x 5 cards. i dug up something, where reagan was told on the phone, calling tip, congratulate him on his 70th birthday. it said, say, hi pal, happy birthday. and it's all scripted. he knew he needed script writers. most politicians would say is an insult. ♪ this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one. it's not the "juggle a bunch of rotating categories" card. it's not the ...