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What she or he put in the weapon. and then, it's supposed to go right to the actor. and the actor should check also, no? >> oh, of course. normally, at least what i do, and i've learned from other armorers over the years, how i got to be long lasting in this industry, you have to learn from those that know. it's like anything else. you get into a field of endeavor and you have to pay attention, have to focus, have to learn the business. well, live ammo has absolutely -- and i say this -- i'm deadly serious. live ammo has no place on a motion picture or television studio set. it has no place on...

But it has ramped up after actacted actor alec baldwin killed someone. how did a live round end up in a prop gun? there is no such thing as a prop g gun? they only use real guns and just change the ammunition. if they get it right. are we going to hear that no real guns will be used in movies anymore? it seems clear now. misschepped led to the accidental killing of hutchins, the cinematographer. someone was in charge of the gun that baldwin pulled the trigger on. someone handed it to him and told him it was cold, meaning no live ammo. you can ask, why were they using a real gun in a rehearsal?...

Someone loading a gun, so that you wouldn't notice there was no slug on the top of the casing, because it's a blank, maybe you would try to substitute the dummy bullets, which are casing with no gun powder and a slug on top, with real ammo. i know you would never do that. but that's the only possibility, right? >> i suppose that's one of the possibilities. when you're dealing with ammunition, a blank round of ammunition right here, for the cowboy -- that's why it fits into the 1873 single-action army, the one i was using. you have a blank round, it's crimped on the front. if you were to load a...

To get medical treatment and halted production. this wasn't his first gun incident on a job. and the head armorer wasn't 100% confident in what she was doing, specifically loading blanks into a gun. although again, if it isn't blank, the loading part isn't the problem. it's that they have live ammo on set. why would you have that in a make-believe situation? now, we are hearing multiple reports that there were at least two accidental prop gun -- again, i keep using that word. never use it. it's completely immaterial. there is no such thing as a prop gun in this instance. okay? they're using re...

A quote/unquote armorer when it takes years to be an armorer. you can be a gun handler. but that's wasn't what she was doing. she wasn't focused and didn't know the weapon. >> this isn't how she loaded blanks. it's that they had live ammo on set, right? >> yeah. that's my understanding. i still am -- because we're no longer dealing with a movie set, we're dealing with a crime scene, i think they're investigating for negligent homicide as soon as they can lay that off, which there seems to be an abundance of people involved in this, there's just no way that the first a.d. should have had any ac...