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I'm trying to think "the nation" is a pretty liberal magazine and i'm trying to figure out if there is still hope. your thoughts, john. >> well, i do think there is still hope that it will be a two-person race. the fact of the matter is bernie sanders and martin o'malley got into a very tough race at the start. they got in the race with a real frontrunner who had strong organization and great name recognition. hillary clinton had a rough late summer and early fall and then she hit her mark. there is no question about that. to my view, about what sanders has to think about, and martin o'malley,...

Santorum. if that vote ever came together, it could defeat romney. now paul is never going to get out of the race. but he might be marginalized in south carolina because he he is not pro-evangelical. andt's possible, i could see a scenario where romney gets like 30, wins the primary. gingrich or santorum get 25. the other one gets 10. and paul gets 8 and perry five and huntsman three. and at that point you go into florida as a two-way race of romney against either santorum. >> bill: one or othe other. there is talk they might make a deal. >> no, i mean even if they don't make a deal. if the so...

If that vote ever came together, it could defeat romney. now paul is never going to get out of the race. but he might be marginalized in south carolina because he he is not pro-evangelical. and it's possible, i could see a scenario where romney gets like 30, wins the primary. gingrich or santorum get 25. the other one gets 10. and paul gets 8 and perry five and huntsman three. and at that point you go into florida as a two-way race of romney against either santorum. >> bill: one or othe other. there is talk they might make a deal. >> no, i mean even if they don't make a deal. if the south caro...

If that vote ever came together, it could defeat romney. now paul is never going to get out of the race. but he might be marginalized in south carolina because he he is not p-evangelical. and it's possible, i could see a scenario where romney gets like 30, wins the primary. gingrich or santorum get 25. the other one gets 10. and paul gets 8 and perry five and huntsman three. and at that point you go into florida as a two-way race of romney against either santorum. >> bill: one or othe other. there is talk they might make a deal. >> no, i mean even if they don't make a deal. if the south caroli...