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For winner take all primaries. as you read that and think about it, where do you sense your campaign is on dealing with his concern? >> well, ultimately, governor sununu talked about this a number of weeks. governor of new hampshire. i think he is right that come winter, if there is not a pathway, a real pathway to victory, then folks need to start thinking about closing up shop. i think that's accurate and something that i ascribe to. >> bret: congressman will hurd, former congressman from texas. we appreciate your time. we'll follow the campaign. >> thank you. >> bret: up next, who is behind...

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Democrats -- >> but none are over on donald trump's side. >> but that's on the other side, right. that is pulling in the other direction because the primary policy point the democrats have been asserting is we're pro border security. you want to raise, as kellyanne conway did today, issues of getting fentanyl when it is coming into -- being smuggled in the country. that came through an official border crossing. >> right. >> and folks making the point that a wall would not have prevented that. the question becomes what is border security? what do we mean by border security? how do we even under...

Know, and how are we making sure there's a rational process for immigration that makes it a real pathway to citizenship for a lot of people. that's the debate that so many democrats really want to have. unfortunately, in this context that's the discussion they haven't been able to have. >> february 15th is when the government could shutdown again if there isn't a deal. the president continues to raise the specter of declaring a national emergency, which a lot of legal experts say he can do because it is very loosely defined as to what a national emergency is. however, apparently according to "...