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Thank you for joining us here on msnbc. >> you're welcome. >> i want to recap for those just joining us. following frightening moments for the people of hawaii after an alert warned of an incoming ballistic missile. that alert said this, quote, this is not a drill. what stands out there for the message, ballistic missile inbound to hawaii. seek immediate shelter. this is not a drill. joining us now vacationing in hawaii. separated from her family on the north shore. just curious what this reaction to this was? you were on vacation. i'm sure this is not something you were entertaining something...

Of what my phone looked like when i woke up. and i woke up to that alert. and then to subsequent texts from my family saying, shelter. i love you. what is happening? these kinds of things. and so and i have nine missed calls. so give you perspective i'm in honolulu in a town that overlooks the ocean and all of way kiki and i looked out the window and couldn't see anything happening. and my dad called me they are on the north shore about an hour away and they are the ones lived that fear of thinking there was a missile heading right at them. >> we just talked with carolyn hall lives in hawaii. ...

Witness encounter to everything going on. that is a wrap. david gura, not much news. i'll hand it off to you. thank you very much. we are talking about this alert that was sent about an hour ago. joining me about now hans nichols. what do we know about how this happened, hans? >> well, we know pacific command, david, sends something out within an hour of their being an initial report of a launch. when there is indeed a launch from north korea, tends to be within that hour range, sometimes a little more. a little bit longer. they have very good detector. secretary mattis told me they know wit...

Three prong strategy out here which is shelter, stay there, and then lister for what's next, stay tuned. and thankfully this was a false alarm. >> valuable perspective. you were at civil defense yesterday. that's what is supposed to happen. what is the process supposed to play out like? i was shocked when i first saw word of this it would begin with a push alert. what is supposed to happen jake who is supposed to make that call? you mention that siren system that's throughout the islands of hawaii. how is this supposed to play out? what have they been told to expect? >> so if something were to...

So we'll dig into that further. what we learned is this is a mistake. >> david, if i could jump in. this was not an exercise. we were there yesterday. they were very clear to us about the exercise and what those exercises look like. if that is the statement coming from the white house. what i learned within tthis was mistake. this was not an exercise whatsoever. those people are trained only in that room only to push that button when they get a call from u.s. pacific command. from what i heard from your guest earlier, that we did not hear that this was a call from u.s. pacific command. >> much...