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Book "the boys in the bus" there's a chapter about covering the nixon white house during watergate. to a lesser extent and less of a public circus we have now, but the same problems were there. they were talking about banding together to oppose, you know, whatever rules for decorum ron ziegler was trying to impose on them. the other thing is the great reporting on this executive branch has been done outside of the white house press room. the really, really great reporting even on what's going on in the white house has happened outside of these briefings. >> yeah. >> so while i understand -- i ...

The punch. sneaky snipes brow county so snookiy iniops is overseeing this thing, and you know they have all of this recount and all of that. well she purposely missed the deadline because when they finish count scott the republican was up she added votes at the end and then that goes with the original count now they added votes total chaos but she's doing a great job in. [laughter] >> well, i happen to be on site hereap in florida for some real reporting. and i was talking to a couple of people who spent a few hours there. looking at thehe ballot and rept onor biggest story of the year done by...

Particularly news institutions and particularly on television, cable news, that we need to be doing much more than just trump lie catching. the lie catching is easy. but when trump talks, for instance, about voter fraud as he did in a tweet last night and warned people about fraudulent voting, we need to be doing stories about the reality of whether or not there is widespread voter fraud. let's look at the underlying questions as reporters and present real reporting in depth that examines the underlying issues. >> and there is not -- there is not widespread voter fraud. i think most americans ...

Anything against president kamala harris from endorsing your book. >> i would not want her to do that. after she left office, that's her business. i don't think it's appropriate as president of the united states. >> interesting. >> douglas -- >> i think presidents endorse different things. maybe not a book. sometimes they endorse businesses. >> i got to get douglas the last word because i'm really out of time. douglas, go on. >> the problem is, donald trump demonizes the press. he called the press the enemy of the people. we have a journalist that was butchered in saudi arabia. and we don't ha...

Little more careful when pushing his next conspiracy theory. talk of an fbi spying got them so angry that it forced the justice department to brief lawmakers. the initial plan was for two house republicans to get the inside scoop but justice department invited a larger group including democrats. >> there is no evidence to support any allegation of the fbi or any intelligence agency placed a spy in the trump campaign or otherwise failed to follow appropriate procedures and protocols. >> trump allies might discount that because they don't think much of the democrat adam schiff. >> were you surpr...