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Not joe biden won wisconsin in 2020. it's trump white house lawyer and a trump political appointee. i'm sure they'll be completely fair though. as we have covered extensively on the show, this audit thus far has been doing a bang-up job, if you take the meaning of "bang-up" literally. it's led to exasperated coverage in wisconsin, reporters trying to figure out how to cover this with a straight face. for example, these are real sentences in a real news article about real things michael gableman has been doing while running this investigation. real sentences as reported by "the milwaukee journa...

Is there a way to sort of ring-fence wisconsin's election security and its voting machines and its ballots and the other things that are part of holding a secure election in a way to stop them from potentially being compromised by an audit like this? >> that's something we're watching for very carefully. we need to make sure we're protecting voters' private data and that we're making sure that our machines don't have to be recommissioned because of this ongoing process. so far that kind of data hasn't been requested. it's been other information that's been requested. but i kind of view the ong...

Literally. it's led to exasperated coverage in wisconsin, reporters trying to figure out how to cover this with a straight face. for example, these are real sentences in a real news article about real things michael gableman has been doing while running this investigation. real sentences as reported by "the milwaukee journal sentinel" just today. quote, gableman two weeks ago issued subpoenas demanding interviews this friday with city clerks and the bipartisan state election commission. within days he canceled those interviews. today he announced the interview with the director of the election...

We saw that with the insurrection. we need to make sure we're working to shut this process down before this leads to bad consequences as well. >> have you -- you do have the benefit of taking on this matter as arizona has just finished it. is there anything that you learned from what responsible elections officials and state officials in wisconsin -- excuse me, in arizona, did or were able to do that sort of gave you ideas in terms of how you can respond to this? >> well, i think you hit the nail on the head in the opening here. one of the things that's really important is that we raise awaren...

Are there things within the government's power or within our power as a country that could winnow that number down? are there things you wish we were doing that we haven't yet been able to do? >> so one set of very interesting numbers is that we went from 95 million people unvaccinated before the president's vaccine requirements in july to 66 million today. so we were at 95 million unvaccinated in july. those requirements were announced, and we're now down to 66 million. so vaccine requirements work. they are good for the economy. they're supported by the majority of the american people. and m...