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What's the market for that right now? >> i'm not sure what the market is. there's a market for new faces, new blood in the democratic party. there's a sense that the party needs somebody who has an understanding of how politics the getting realigned in this country. donald trump got elected president. that can't happen. but it did happen. and as yet, there's not a fully understood realignment going on. one aspect of it, is that independents are the largest group of voters now. party affiliation is weaker than it used to be. and issues are up for grabs. the issues like the social safety net are...

Needs somebody who has an understanding of how politics the getting realigned in this country. donald trump got elected president. that can't happen. but it did happen. and as yet, there's not a fully understood realignment going on. one aspect of it, is that independents are the largest group of voters now. party affiliation is weaker than it used to be. and issues are up for grabs. the issues like the social safety net are up for grabs. issues like tariffs versus free trade, are up for grabs. and i think there's a sense in the party that somebody -- that the candidate needs to have a grasp o...

Went with kerry. electability would have to be the biden pitch. i can win pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, game over. what's the market for that right now? >> i'm not sure what the market is. there's certainly also a market for new faces, new blood in the democratic party. there's a sense that the party needs somebody who has an understanding of how politics is getting realigned in this country. look, donald trump got elected president. that can't happen. but it did happen. and as yet, there's not a fully understood realignment going on. one aspect of it, is that independents are the largest...

America going by lower rates, flatter based tax reform. martha: simplify the tax code for the corp corporations, lower the taxes across the board for corporations was the plan. >> that's right but you can't have one without the other. martha: thanks for the reaganomics lesson this morning, art. it's always good to see you. >> it's a pleasure, thank you, martha. bill: it's like 1986 again. martha: all your favorite tunes. bill: right there for you. jon scott is coming up. we'll have things down in the newsroom. jon: i promise not to sing, bill. thank you doing well. lots of news to cover today....