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Lot of concern. >> and just briefly, how long would it take theoretically to to actually drill another entry way, an exit, if you will? >> reporter: they would have to find it first. there have been hundreds of people walking in the hills and the forests around here. there have been helicopters that have been brought in. they've been using drones. they've been trying to evaluate the landscape to see if there's anywhere that presents an opportunity, a crack, an access to a chimney, a place where they could drill, somewhere they might be able to drop ropes and pull the boys out. this in the opin...

State department brian hook spoke to our washington bureau chief alexander phenomena here's more so mr huq the announcements today and the sanctions do you really believe that stay can bring about that change a you expect from iran well it certainly will bring about more change than we've had under the j c.p.o. way since adoption of the iran nuclear deal iran has actually increased its destabilizing behavior across the middle east and it also has not deterred iran's intent to acquire a nuclear weapon and so we're putting in place a new security architecture that we think is going to actually a...

About more change than we've had under the j c.p.o. way since adoption of the iran nuclear deal iran has actually increased its destabilizing behavior across the middle east and it also has not deterred iran's intent to acquire a nuclear weapon and so we're putting in place a new security architecture that we think is going to actually achieve our national security objectives not just for the united states but for the world. however many experts are skeptical saying that you are telling the run to stop being iran and its rival on the other on the realistic that the iran iranian regime is going...

Don't believe that's the case. i met with a senior european diplomat yesterday who said they delivered that same message to the president, that the pressures inside and outside iran are such that it's extremely unlikely that they would. they have got domestic political pressures. the idea of going back to the table, our european allies don't see that as a realistic -- >> i was texting with a european diplomat watching the president's speech. he called it a disaster. i said what about this notion, could he from your perspective crazy idea that ripping it up and starting over may actually work? ...

Katie, news editor at townhall.com. and bill mcgurn, main columnist for "the wall street journal." bill, realistic? >> it's a little realistic. look, the problem isn't can we build this stuff? there's two problems. who is going to pay for it? and can we get permission to build it from the regulatory process? so those are the areas i think where the president could have a little morning impact. you know, we need a reform of how it's done. in new york and new jersey, for example, so much of this should have been done by the local and state governments. but because of the spending problems that t...