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Defendant in this case. it's an officer involved. >> also wondering just your gut when you heard the first piece of audio. obviously he's shot and killed this man. i don't know what kind of adrenaline is running through him, but to hear this laughter it's almost like this nervous laughter with this officer. how do you read that? >> yeah there's a point in time where your cognitive abilities are gone. you're just saying whatever comes into your mind. you don't really know what's happening. it seems surreal. that's what i think is happening to this guy. and i'm pretty sure after he discharged hi...

Into depression. it's as if the project was her sole purpose in life. is this normal or is this nuts? >> normal. why? because number one, it's a big undertaking a wedding. when the project is over, it can feel like a big lull in the action. secondarily, what makes a mom not have to think about the fact that she's at a new stage in our life when her daughter or son gets married? it's the wedding. then reality sets in. totally normal. psychotherapy which should come with the catering bill. it should be included. >> you marry off the kids and go to the shrink? >> why not? >> it's like an olympic ...

Don't -- --. >> when i worked for the "miami herald," these things go a long way and soften the media and i see the way they are much harder on the candidates who keep them at arm's length. i saw that with the campaign of michele bachmann and hillary clinton. >> i worked in new york and i got hour long calls from mario cuomo but he was engaged. >> rand paul gives a lot of interviews and he is said to be the most interesting guy in politics. >> he is riding a wave warm media feeling but in the end reality sets in and you do not win a primary because the media likes you but there is no doubt he ...

Don't -- --. >> when i worked for the "miami herald," these things go a long way and soften the media and i see the way they are much harder on the candidates who keep them at arm's length. i saw that with the campaign of michele bachmann and hillary clinton. >> i worked in new york and i got hour long calls from mario cuomo but he was engaged. >> rand paul gives a lot of interviews and he is said to be the most interesting guy in politics. >> he is riding a wave warm media feeling but in the end reality sets in and you do not win a primary because the media likes you but there is no doubt he ...

Jeb bush's e-mail address. he's hardly a remote figure to the press corps like mitt romney was. >> this matters, the connection with the press. when i worked in florida with the miami herald, i would get calles from charlie crist on saturday morning. these things go a long way. i think it softens the media in my opinion. and i see the way they're harder on the candidate that's keep them at arm's-length. >> when i worked in new york i used to get hour long calls from cuomo. hand wall gives lots and lots of interviews. >> rand paul is ride ago wave of warm media feeling. in the end, of course re...