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Stagnant. it's going to shift and you're not going to be able to rely on it when you're on the ground immediately. however, the reality is we're put in a position where we're seen as a paper tiger now. now they're going to take precautions to make it impossible now to rescue other hostages. >> that was my point, steve and mike. there's in point in saying we tried but didn't get them other than to tell the enemy we're coming after our guys. the group behind this team is al qaeda. we're not talking isis now. we're not talking syria and iraq. how were these guys different from isis in. >> well, t...

And al qaeda realized isis was getting fame and recruitment. now it's open season on americans around the world. al qaeda is in rivalry with isis in the same type of tactics and you can be sure that al qaeda is going to be killing americans no matter where they are, not necessarily directedly al qaeda core but by al qaeda inspired people, like we saw just last week, a woman who was killed. and americans killed in sinai. like the israelis has been killed around the world. >> it seems that americans are going to be more at risk of being taken hostage. what can we do about this? >> well, american...

And al qaeda realized isis was getting fame and recruitment. now it's open season on americans around the world. al qaeda is in rivalry with isis in the same type of tactics and you can be sure that al qaeda is going to be killing americans no matter where they are, not necessarily directedly al qaeda core but by al qaeda inspired people, like we saw just last week, a woman who was killed. and americans killed in sinai. like the israelis has been killed around the world. >> it seems that americans are going to be more at risk of being taken hostage. what can we do about this? >> well, american...

And al qaeda realized isis was getting fame and recruitment. now it's open season on americans around the world. al qaeda is in rivalry with isis in the same type of tactics and you can be sure that al qaeda is going to be killing americans no matter where they are, not necessarily directedly al qaeda core but by al qaeda inspired people, like we saw just last week, a woman who was killed. and americans killed in sinai. like the israelis has been killed around the world. >> it seems that americans are going to be more at risk of being taken hostage. what can we do about this? >> well, american...

>> they are in competition. and what they realize is that isis enriched itself by the tune of tens of millions of dollars by getting hostages and getting them to be paid by ransom money. this is exactly what was going on with this set of hostages. they were going to get paid ransom money and set ghands. and al qaeda realized isis was getting a lot of fame and recruitment. so now they are in competition. >> all right. unfortunately, he wasn't able to make it out but we tried. >> it wasn't a successful mission but they were a i believe to extracate him. these folks did what they do, they kill an...