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Wants to save himself. they all come back to the same thing, though, which is at the center of this is donald trump, his business practices and what did he do with the russians in the campaign. >> i'm not sure playing off a play mate to obscure an affair when your wife just had your first child in that relationship has anything to do with russia. it's a different kind of problem. >> it's exculpatory in this case. >> it is exculpatory clearly. it's called lipstick on a pig. that's what that p.r. measure is called. there's no way this is good. but the question is how bad. the reason trump has be...

Might find that the immunity -- sorry, the privilege, there's an exception called the crime/fraud exception where if it's showing evidence of a crime, the privilege doesn't apply. it might be a p.r. move that they didn't want that statement being made and are letting it go, but it is odd that they haven't asserted the privilege given what a big deal they made about the seizure of many of these documents and items. >> joe lockhart, you know p.r., there's an issue of getting it out early on your own terms? >> yeah. i mean, listen, if you listen to rudy giuliani, he said it was exculpatory. i'm n...

Something that is truly unbelievable. i think the president and white house will make massive clarifications. it was disappointing but they've been very aggressive against russia so far. >> when rand paul is your only defender you have a real p.r. issue. >> sandra: congressman, thank you. >> jon: will this firestorm that's come to dominate coverage of the russian summit hurt the g.o.p. come this november? we take that on with rnc chair ronna mcdaniel, our headliner next hour. >> sandra: the all-star game happening tonight in washington we're live at nationals ballpark with a preview. ♪ the f...

There projecting victory and claiming president trump as their standard, the longer this is going to be a headache for the white house. >> jon: the breaking news is that the president's panel of ceos has now disbanded, news outlets have reported. these are these top ceos the president recruited to try toç get together and get his manufacturing, get jobs back in thisñr country, make america grt again. they've all just decided to pack it in, that is añi black eye for the white house. no other way to put it. >> what's so interesting about this is the president likes being surrounded by busine...

Some of the problems they have been having are being nipped in the bud. >> in your view is carnival cruise lines in trouble? does it have a real p.r. nightmare right on its lap? >> well, look, this is a very, very good company. these are very savvy people. of course if they have a problem. i don't think this is necessarily one that will go on forever. first of all, you have to realize what the problem is. it's operational, largely. so you solve the operational problem. by that i mean if you have toilets overflowing and engines stopping that has to be addressed. that solves the b problem. secon...