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Essentially this is something that i guess on paper allows everyone to come back in. is this as simple as the customs and borer protection officials say that business is back to usual? >> this is not simple at all. first of all, i am a little bit concerned about this particular judge in washington decide that this order can take effect across the country. the judge was relying on the decision from the texas case where a federal judge basically stayed president obama's i immigration executive order. i expect the trump white house and justice department to challenge that part of the order and sa...

Or so. look, again, i wasn't part of this decision making. i'm not mayor any longer. but you started out with i have been in this kind of situation in the past, not exactly this. when law enforcement gives me -- tells me that it's a credible specific threat that we ought to take seriously, we take it seriously. that's what they are done here. we can second-guess tomorrow and the next day when we know exactly what transpired here but for now, it's just wrong, it's irresponsible to be second-guessing men and women who have to make realtime decisions about the lives and the public safety of our c...

Push it back, push it back, push it back. this won't be the first or the last time that you see them just arbitrarily in the middle of the night say you know what? never mind, we are not ready for that yet. business owners are being forced to make realtime decisions while they are playing politics and games and posturing. >> tucker: you started this business. stefl business, when you heard the president trying to make this law that you will get far more it services and pay less. that's magic, right? >> it's magic. it doesn't happen. in oklahoma, the largest healthcare provider. one of the hosp...

Question is what they're trying to define. what does eminent mean? >> let's look at hindsight as was done on bill maher's show. here's what would have happened. democrats would have been a lot tougher on george bush, even calling for his impeachment over something similar. do you agree? >> there's no question. as we're learning about the different types of war fare, this is a different type of war in a different type of time. we're learning more on a different time scale. 15, 20 years ago, there were no drone strikes. 10 years ago, there were no drone strikes. this is uniquely for president ob...

Those things. that we're all plugged in. it is the right kind of jobs investment for the country to put people to work laying those lines and connecting those americans to the grid and the right things to do for the rural parts of the country so people and businesses in every part of the country can compete economically. joining us now for the interview tonight, our nation's secretary of agriculture, also the former governor of iowa, tom vilsack. mr. secretary, thanks for being here. >> it's great to be here. >> i did not know i would be talking to you about things like expanding broadband acc...