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President obama. -- >> for the nomination. >> if you're sitting in obama's shoes today and his campaign shoes, it's going to be decided by independents. that kind of language will excite independents and conservatives. but the question is whether or not that translates into a general election victory. >> i was only speaking -- >> i think it excites independents. and i asked mr. axle r0d before if they don't want romney to go, they were exciting the base for romneyhis morning with axelrod's comments and what you were showing about no moral core, et cetera. geez. >> it's become -- it seems tat i...

It would require -- >> how do you not see that as a kind of great distortion of what's really happening out there? >> this may excite the conservative base but at the end of the day this race will be decided by independent voters who went two to one in 2008 for president obama. >> for the nomination? >> sorry, for the general election. if you're sitting in obama he's shoes today, his campaign's shoes, it's going to be decided by independents. that kind of language will excite independents and conservatives. but the question is whether or not that translates into a general election victory. >> ...