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Earlier, the paper says it's a recognition of spencer's noxious political impact. they point to spencer coining the term alt-right and cite his invitations to college campuses where his speeches and writings represent a new breed of white supremacy, your point as well, john, and they used the violence in charlottesville as an example, saying, when spencer speaks, violence often follows. >> let's name him texan's obnoxious person of the year. >> the best thing you can do is just not give attention to him, not say his name on television and then work behind the scenes to suppress and push down t...

President, it was because we've got the nazi movement next door. more people are marching on torches in the heart of charlottesville, and that is a wake-up call to our country. >> the guy you would see at the convenience store or the local wal-mart or costcoor just wherever you would be out shopping at. when we come back, ivanka trump wearing her outfits in public and she is getting a lot of free advertising in return. ♪ (nadia white) the moment a fish is pulled out from the water,

>> they left the door open. when you refuse to disassociate yourself with the thoughts and words and actions of people carrying tiki torches in charlottesville and not saying that -- you know, casting all sorts of moral equivalency with white supremacists, you're doing more than -- you're emboldening that. you're not just leaving the door open. >> it is deeply divided. so long as spencer can portray whites as victims in his imagined cultural war, he will continue to have an impact. what does that tell you about how divided we are? >> this is actually a well-written essay they wrote. the alt-ri...

That the president has failed to disassociate himself with and in some cases has inflamed the flames of. this is a movement that doesn't have an impact on our international discourse, but it does. >> it is, but let's not call it this sort of huge national movement, either. the reason sharcharlottesville called unite the right, it's because a lot of fringe groups with not that many people, no real leader. let's not elevate them or make them bigger or more important than they are. they are a fringe group in a national conference after donald trump was elected and 200 people showed up. that's not...