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Is if the goal of this is to get rid of assad, which i understand is what the outcome that senator john mccain would like to see, i think everyone in the world if they could wave a magic wand, or everyone in u.s. politics if they could wave a magic wand would like to see assad go. if that's the goal, and this escalation of, say, arming the rebels doesn't work, have we not just put our foot in quicksand in which we must then continue to escalate? >> no, i don't think so. first of all, they are all bad choices. i don't mean to imply these choices are easy or these choices are good. i think, fran...

They could wave a magic wand would like to see assad go. if that's the goal, and this escalation of, say, arming the rebels doesn't work, have we not just put our foot in quicksand in which we must then continue to escalate? >> no, i don't think so. first of all, they are all bad choices. i don't mean to imply these choices are easy or these choices are good. i think, frankly, we should have armed the rebels many months ago and i have a bill in congress that would authorize the president to do just that. i think that we know who the well-vetted rebels are. the free syrian army. and we can get ...