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Deliberately impairing the integrity or available of evidence would be an obstruction, is that correct? >> yes. >> so what if a president told a witness not to cooperate with an investigation or hinted at a pardon? >> you know, i'd have to know the specific. i'd have to know the specific facts. >> would it be appropriate to go against the advice of career ethics officials that have recommended recusal, and can you give an exactly or situation or scenario you would go against a recommend digs you recuse yourself. >> there are different recusals, some are mandated and others judgment calls. >> l...

Situation or scenario you would go against their recommendation to recuse yourself? >> there are different kinds of recusals. some are mandated and others are judgment calls. >> let's imagine it's a judgment call and the judgment by the career ethics officials are that you recuse yourself. under which scenario would you not follow it. >> if i disagreed. >> under what basis? >> i came to a different judgment? >> on what basis? >> the facts. >> such as? >> whatever facts are relevant. >> what are do you remember the facts would be that are relevant? >> they could be enumerable. there is a rule o...

President. recommend, the president is putting himself on the ballot. yet in the same breath will say, well, if this doesn't work, it's not my fault. well, you can't have it both ways. this is either about you or it isn't. if you're telling us this is about you by telling candidates tell your vote toers vote for me, as well, then yeah, all of this is about you and all of this is on you. and you're right, joe, on november 7th, the idea of this massive influx -- oh, and don't forget the middle easterners who happen to be tucked neatly within that group of migrants coming across the border. all o...

Hudson river or east of las vegas. it seems to me democrats have to figure out how to start winning in middle america again like bill clinton knew how to do. barack obama knew how to do it. but they have to learn how to do it on the state level as well or else this is going to keep happening. it's not an easy remedy, it's a straightforward recommend i do the democrats' problem which is go out and win elections. you saw it in alabama. alabama, one of the reddest states in the country. there's plenty of people who should vote democratic, their values align with democrats, on the issues they're d...

Just a couple cleanup questions. which of your two lawyers did senator feinstein come of the recommend? >> the katz firm. >> when you do to leave that night, did a leland keyser ever follow up with you and say hey, what happened to you? >> i have had communications with her recently. >> i'm talking about like the next day. >> no, she did not know about the event. she was downstairs, and i did not share it with her. >> have you been -- are you aware, that the three people at the party besides yourself and brett kavanaugh, have given statements under penalty of felony to the committee? >> yes. >...