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Expand coverage, better options, better care, help bring down the deficit, the republicans don'te have a counter argument. >> you're saying the ends justify the means. if i may -- >> i want to bring this -- >> if i may. senator byrd, the person who developed this reconciliation concept, a democrat, says this is an inappropriate way to use it. don't argue with me, argue with your own senator. >> gentlemen, hang on for a second. wasn't to fast forward this conversation with the time we have. chris, it is now down to the democrats. it is now about the democrats trusting -- those in the house trus...

And the language is simple i'm going to raise this rate, lower that rate. we're talking now about changing the entire way that health care is delivered in this country. we are talking about taking the federal government growing from it 20% of the economy to 25, 26% of the economy. changing the way you and your doctor interact and you and your hospital treats you. these are huge public policy issues which are way outside the reconciliation concept. because they need debate, discussion and subject to amendments on the floor of the senate. in order to do them correctly or have a proper airing and...

And the language is simple i'm going to raise this rate, lower that rate. we're talking now about changing the entire way that health care is delivered in this country. we are talking about taking the federal government growing from it 20% of the economy to 25, 26% of the economy. changing the way you and your doctor interact and you and your hospital treats you. these are huge public policy issues which are way outside the reconciliation concept. because they need debate, discussion and subject to amendments on the floor of the senate. in order to do them correctly or have a proper airing and...