>> look, they don't know what they don't know. teresa frier recommended an authorization, because they could not get a handle on that site. and today, as you said, doing patch after patch, how can you do an end to end security system to something that is changing basically every day. they have never done it. when they say there has been no breaches, hey look, there is nothing in there that is valuable right now besides the data, but when you build the reconciliation systems, the payment systems, wait until you see the fraud happen. >> that is an interesting point. thank you. and you saw i sp...