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And also ari berman, contributor writer for the nation magazine and author of the book "herding donkeys." great to have both of you with us. ari, you have been on the story from the start but i want to start with nina tonight. nina, is there a racial component here? i have to ask that question. they did cut the hours in all 88 counties, but when you look at the hours that they are shortening, it goes right to working families and right to people who are of low income, maybe working two jobs. your thoughts on this. >> that's right, ed. this is as much about race as it is about class. the maelst...

And also ari berman, contributor writer for the nation magazine and author of the book "herding donkeys." great to have both of you with us. ari, you have been on the story from the start but i want to start with nina tonight. nina, is there a racial component here? i have to ask that question. they did cut the hours in all 88 counties, but when you look at the hours that they are shortening, it goes right to working families and right to people who are of low income, maybe working two jobs. your thoughts on this. >> that's right, ed. this is as much about race as it is about class. the maelst...

Writer for the nation magazine and author of the book "herding donkeys." great to have both of you with us. i want to start with nina. nina, is there a racial component here? i have to ask that question. they did cut the hours in all 88 counties, but when you look at the hours that they are shortening, it goes right to working families and right to people who are of low income, maybe working two jobs. your thoughts on this. >> that's right, ed. this is as much about race as it is about class. the malmstrom of bigotry and foolishness in the state of ohio, it has become the new south and not a g...