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Me. i think any family recognizes when you're-- when you have spent on your credit card. there's a time when the bills come due and you don't get to go to the credit card company and say, well, i just have more debt here. but i don't have a spending problem. >> well, you have a spending problem. >> speaker boehner said that president obama has said something similar to him, but today, the white house press secretary, jay carney says of course, the president believes we have a spending problem, specifically driven by health care spending and that's a fact. so, there's some pushback on at least ...

Me. i think any family recognizes when you're-- when you have spent on your credit card. there's a time when the bills come due and you don't get to go to the credit card company and say, well, i just have more debt here. but i don't have a spending problem. >> well, you have a spending problem. >> speaker boehner said that president obama has said something similar to him, but today, the white house press secretary, jay carney says of course, the president believes we have a spending problem, specifically driven by health care spending and that's a fact. so, there's some pushback on at least ...

Economy. >> reporter: that's right. almost a tradition now, the speaker has a little breakfast with reporters before the state of the union. he did that today, bret baier was there, and the speaker really ripped into the president saying, among other things, quote: i don't think he has the guts to do it. he doesn't have the courage to take on the liberal side of his own party, never has. and what the speaker was suggesting was that he thinks we'll see a more partisan president tonight, not someone who's going to be reaching across the aisle. and when you listen to some of boehner's colleagues ...

Same thing happened in reverse on tuesday. and you guys have to come to the table -- can't keep obstructing. >> bush tax cuts, there were two waves of tax cuts, in 2001 and 2004 you're right, that led to 54 consecutive months of economic growth. >> it led to record deficits which you guys only apparently care about when democrats are in the white house and led to humongous plunge in 2008 -- >> came under obama. not -- >> george bush was handed a surplus and left with a deficit. you can't talk about the fact that bush didn't do anything -- >> we had a national security emergency. >> well, you k...

Penny ante crime gets you in prison for life and did away definitely people are taking a new look at the criminal justice system. you know, both in the context of fairness and justice but also in a deficit context. yohing that we want you know, spending resources on at a time when we're complaining about record deficits? >> absolutely. it's an interesting topic. we'll see what happens and this may be the beginning of a process that will be followed in other states. >> could be. >> thank you, ryan. great pleasure having you on. you had a long night. thank you for joining me. time now for the ...