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Got this conversation as he is recounting it, the president is recounting it, john mclaughlin, we don't know yet what jim comey will say, if he does come forth this may, in fact, inspire him to come forth sooner than later to give his side of the story? >> i think in any conversation, you have to have both sides of it. that's one thing i've learned in my old business. i guess i'll be a little surprised if it's quite as simple as the president lays it out. now let's allow for the possibility that the president isn't under investigation. number of things have been written by smart people saying,...

Termination letter to mr. comey. you write, i greatly appreciate you informing me on three separate occasions that i am not under investigation. why did you put that in there? >> because he told me that. i mean he told me that. >> he told you you weren't under investigation with regard to the russian investigation -- >> was it in a phone call or meet face to face. >> i had a dinner with him because he wanted to stay on. >> he asked for the dinner. >> dinner was arranged. i think he asked for the dinner. and he wanted to stay on as the fbi head and i said i'll consider it and we'll see what hap...

The way. they -- >> because in your letter you said i accepted their recommendations. you had made the decision? >> i was going to fire regardless of recommendation. >> so there was no -- >> he made a recommendation. he's highly respected, very good guy, very smart guy, the democrats like him, the republicans like him. he made a recommendation. but regardless of recommendation, i was going to fire comey. >> let me ask you about your termination letter to in comey. you write i greatly appreciate you informing me on three separate occasions i am not under investigation. why did you put that in t...

Into an active criminal investigation, be it about him, his associates or anyone else that might be implicated in donald trump's universe. so that is probably inappropriate. it is not technically illegal by any means. the other headline that you were just discussing with our correspondents, it is significant that the president has now admitted he wanted to fire james comey regardless. this is a white house that has said from the podium and elsewhere, the opposite, that this was an idea that came from the justice department, from the deputy attorney general and the president reacted to it. so i...

It's not trivial. this is an important part of the job of being president of being chief of staff. >> and the other piece of it is, we were talking to david kohn, one of your successors as deputy cia director who says you never know what could have been brought in on that camera in terms of the technical surveillance devices possibly implanted. we all go through security clearances, but there are devices that could get through a magnetometer. >> i would hope that white house security would have as they say swept the room and in some way determined that people coming into the room were not brin...