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Progress takes patience. douglas should have been, rightfully so, angry at the lack of progress, pushing lincoln to move as quickly as possible. at the same time, you have to admire and respect lincoln's patience. brian: the white house look as lot like it did in 1860 when lincoln was president. brian: line up on the porch and hope the president would see you one-on-one. that's what grikd douglas decided to do. he didn't have to wait long. >> lincoln was smitten with douglas. he knew he was a figure and carried baggage with him politically. he wanted to meet douglas. >> after the initial meeti...

Reflect the racial makeup of the community it serves but that's why it's difficult to rebuild the trust there between law enforcement and the community, right? >> diversity is an issue not just in south bend but in departments across the country. some of it has to do with the mass hiring in the 1980s and a real effort toward diversity and a lot of those officers, men and women, are retiring now but are not being replaced. that's a problem. we have got to get the community involved and the police department to do a better job in recruiting blacks, hispanics, asians, gays. we need to be as diver...

And you find a 67 percent community with 53 police officers then it comes to the light, so i was listening to director james from the fbi yesterday while here, and he was talking about the difficulties and recruiting with 13,000 agents on it and just over 600 being black and we have pools with the federal government with the law enforcement police departments across the nation that are ready to serve in the fbi and on a whole. they have a -- it's a very difficult job, but it can be done. there's no excuses. you have to beat the streets and get the job done with the efforts of recruiting blacks...