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Some of the moem memos that authorized the ooze of enhanced interrogation. when you read about this report and the techniques that were used, forced rectal feeding, agency officials threatening to rape the mothers of prisoners, people with broken limbs being forced to stand for hours and hours, deprived of sleep for up to one week, doesn't that strike you as torture? >> well, those are very troubling examples. they would not have been approved by the justice department. they were not approved by the justice department at the time. but i have to question whether they are true because i can't ta...

Department official in the bush administration and one of the authors of the government's so-called torture memos. he's now a professor at berkeley law school. and marwan muasher was the foreign minister and then deputy prime minister of jordan in the post-9/11 years. his nation was an important u.s. ally in the war on terror. john, let me start with you. you did author or have authored some of the memos that authorized the use of enhanced interrogation. when you read about this report and the techniques that were used, forced rectal feeding, agency officials threatening to rape the mothers of...

Attention. at least five cia detainees subjected to rectal feeding without documented medical necessity. take a listen to how it is defended. >> let's differentiate, if we can, for the sake of the conversation, between the abuses such as the rectal re-hydration. >> stop. that was a medical procedure. that was done because of detainee health that the people responsible there for the health of the detainees saw they were becoming dehydrated and had limited options. it was invuvenus with needles. it was through nasal passages. >> humus and pine nuts? >> this is one of the kays that the body is re...

An intellectually challenged man was held by the cia solely as leverage to get a family member to provide information. at least five cia detainees were subjected to rectal rehydration, or rectal feeding, without documented medical necessity. the last is especially horrifying to medical professionals. a senior medical adviser for the group, physicians for human rights said, quote, this is a form of sexual assault. masquerading as a medical treatment. the senate report claims the cia misrepresented the effectiveness of these techniques to congress, to the white house, and to the general public. ...

And they said the rectal feeding was better if you couldn't put a needle in someone's arm if they are resisting and the detainee who was remaining in the report and he ripped out the hose and so they did rectal feeding. that is the explanation. was that okay? >> no, you look at this in context, this is pure torture. rectal feeding, waterboarding. wall slamming. leaving people outside all night to die of hypothermia. it fits a pattern of abuse and that is the way it will be interpreted. >> and it is just an interesting -- jonathan to think -- you have bob bear from the cia saying this, what do ...