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22 times. he will keep coming back because he knows ohio is the heart of it all. >> all right. ohio state senator nina turner, great to have you with us again tonight. thanks so much. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. i'm a believer. our locker room's okay. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. good evening, ed. great show tonight. it was epic. thanks for staying with us the next hour. televised debates have existed in this country since 196 o. that was the really, really famous one. it was sweaty, dick nixon sick with a fever against polished john f. kennedy. ...

Context? there isn't that much historical context, right? like, this is a very knowable thing. honestly, that first one, that first one in 1976 where incumbent president gerald ford faced off against challenger jimmy carter, honestly, this one shouldn't even really count as part of the context like the rest of them because this one was almost too unusual. in terms of the reaction from that first debate, you want to know who won that debate? well, watch. >> good evening. here's what did it. a capacitor. a tiny electronic component costing less than $1. a capacitor blew out last night in an ampl...

>> hi, rachel. >> how does president obama counter the strategy of mitt romney's to unveil whole new ideas or deny he ever held the ideas that he plainly has held? it's one thing to have a truth squad fact checking on pooinlli. how do you counter that at the podium? >> one is i'm rubber, you're glue, bounces off and sticks to you. trickle-down, to confuse everybody, throw up a lot of smoke about that word, trick trickle-down. >> he did that with war on women, too. >> he did it with war on women and has done it in the past on saying that obama wants to, quote, end medicare as we know it. >> rig...

The spirited debate they had last night on terrorism in iraq, but this time they were not on a common stage and kerry had the kind of confidence that comes with polls and pundits agreeing that he won last night's showdown. >> did you watch that debate last night? >> this was john kerry today. bolder, declaring victory, relieving worried democrats. >> yesterday he showed me he's ready to leave this country. >> reporter: in pennsylvania today, the president tried to overcome doubts about his debate performance by swinging hard at his opponent. in a new line of attack, he failed to use last night...

Debates won by an incumbent president facing his challenger on tv is basically zero. we'll keep this as a running tally here, right? so zero wins at this point. zero wins, one losses. incumbent presidents are 0 for 1. how about the next one? 1980. all right. at that point, the incumbent president was jimmy carter. the challenger was ronald reagan. everybody knows how the election came out that year. that's not what we're talking ant here. what we're talking about is who won that first debate. incumbent president jimmy carter or was it the challenger, ronald reagan? >> leaving cleveland this mo...