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Say they no longer think these are serious inquiries that will put a tremendous amount of pressure. >> that's a key point. so that card, if they were to publicly withdraw their support from the committee's work, that would produce pressure for some special impaneling? >> it's like a red stoplight going off in the middle of an expressway. so what you have to do is you have to decide how exactly are you going to play this thing from the republicans' perspective. are you going to go along with the red stoplight or blow through traffic, to use that analogy. they have to determine where their loyal...

Because these committees are not controlled by democrats and there is a clear partisan valance in how they're approaching it, how much control does he have or the minority of the committee have to steer this investigation? >> well, they have a limited number of cards to play but relatively powerful ones. we've seen thus far that speaker ryan and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell have resisted calls for an investigations, the formation of a select committee or a bipartisan commission by saying no, no, there's an ongoing investigation. let's let that happen instead of having these more robu...

So what you have to do is you have to decide how exactly are you going to play this thing from the republicans' perspective. are you going to go along with the red stoplight or blow through traffic, to use that analogy. they have to determine where their loyalty lies here on the republican side. yesterday they were hounding everyone for the leakers. the democrats laid out a powerful systematic case that the united states was attacked by a foreign agency. >> i heard people use that word. that word strikes me as controversial. attack -- i mean, i'm sure we've compromised the systems of foreign p...