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Charge or potential charge if it shows they were really trying and the trump camp just kept not complying and saying they complied when they hadn't. that sort of thing will probably have a greater chance of surviving redaction process. >> we only have a couple more seconds before a hard break. what are you expecting? >> not much. i think the people who have already spoken around what we know the doj is going to be trying to protect with respect to witnesses and the integrity of the investigation are absolutely correct. i know that there have been calls publicly from the media and from both sid...

15,000 of the afghan war diaries were withheld. the iraq war logs were actually criticised by wired for being over—redacted. when you'd put side—by—side the wikileaks war diaries with information that had been released by the us government through freedom of information act requests — actually, the us government's copy was less redacted. and, in relation to the cables, wikileaks had a painstaking redaction process that it rolled out over the course of 9—10 months, it engaged over 100 media organisations in over 50 countries. i just come back to the fact that journalists, respected jo...

In the public domain as part of the legal case. people who are actually working side—by—side with julian say that julian was extraordinarily responsible. it is simply not true that wikileaks dumped information. 15,000 of the afghan war diaries were withheld. the iraq war logs were actually criticised by wired for being over—redacted. when you'd put side—by—side the wikileaks war diaries with information that had been released by the us government through freedom of information act requests — actually, the us government's copy was less redacted. and, in relation to the cables, wikil...

Look, wikileaks, in the process of the extradition, a lot of information is now in the public domain as part of the legal case. people who are actually working side—by—side with julian say that julian was extraordinarily responsible. it is simply not true that wikileaks dumped information. 15,000 of the afghan war diaries were withheld. the iraq war logs were actually criticised by wired for being over—redacted. when you had put side by side the wikileaks war diaries with information that had been released by the us government through freedom of information act requests — actually, the...

And budget to answer the question as to why there was a hold on aid to ukraine and we still haven't seen that trans. >> that is true. >> i was there for that deposition and his answer was very important. >> so i asked about that off camera and sandy's transcript, the deposition will be released it is going through the redaction process right now. but i guess a couple of points, one, it came out in testimony this week that the ukrainians did know that the aid was on hold before the phone call. i don't know what zelensky knew or didn't know. but the ukrainian government did no. that is one. and ...