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15,000 of the afghan war diaries were withheld. the iraq war logs were actually criticised by wired for being over—redacted. when you'd put side—by—side the wikileaks war diaries with information that had been released by the us government through freedom of information act requests — actually, the us government's copy was less redacted. and, in relation to the cables, wikileaks had a painstaking redaction process that it rolled out over the course of 9—10 months, it engaged over 100 media organisations in over 50 countries. i just come back to the fact that journalists, respected journalists — and i'm now looking at the associated press, one of the most respected institutions in american journalism, did a retrospective look at a lot of the information wikileaks had put into the public domain over years. now, this was conducted in august 2016, and ap concluded that, "in its spectacular mass disclosures
extraordinarily responsible. it is simply not true that wikileaks dumped information. 15,000 of the afghan war diaries were withheld. the iraq war logs were actually criticised by wired for being over—redacted. when you'd put side—by—side the wikileaks war diaries with information that had been released by the us government through freedom of information act requests — actually, the us government's copy was less redacted. and, in relation to the cables, wikileaks had a painstaking redaction process that it rolled out over the course of 9—10 months, it engaged over 100 media organisations in over 50 countries. i just come back to the fact thatjournalists, respected journalists — and i'm now looking at the associated press, one of the most respected institutions in americanjournalism, did a retrospective look at a lot of the information wikileaks had put into
wikileaks dumped information. 15,000 of the afghan war diaries were withheld. the iraq war logs were actually criticised by wired for being over—redacted. when you'd put side—by—side the wikileaks war diaries with information that had been released by the us government through freedom of information act requests — actually, the us government's copy was less redacted. and, in relation to the cables, wikileaks had a painstaking redaction process that it rolled out over the course of 9—10 months, it engaged over 100 media organisations in over 50 countries. i just come back to the fact thatjournalists, respected journalists — and i'm now looking at the associated press, one of the most respected institutions in americanjournalism, did a retrospective look at a lot of the information wikileaks had put into the public domain over years.
and i'm now looking at the associated press, one of the most respected institutions in american journalism, did a retrospective look at a lot of the information wikileaks had put into the public domain over years. now, this was conducted in august 2016, and ap concluded that, "in its spectacular mass disclosures over years, wikileaks have, at one time oranother, included the personal information of hundreds of people, including in some cases sick children, rape victims, and mental health patients." there's the question of whetherjudgment is used byjulian assange. well, obviously, judgment is used byjulian assange. we're talking about publications, yes, at scale — he's taken every step to protect people who were at risk of coming to physical harm. and, in fact, the us government has had to admit under oath that they have not found a single case in which a person has come to physical harm as a result of the publications.
i just come back to the fact that journalists respected journalists — and i'm now looking at the associated press, one of the most respected institutions in american journalism, did a retrospective look at a lot of the information wikileaks had put into the public domain over years. now, this was conducted in august 2016, and ap concluded that, "in its spectacular mass disclosures over years, wikileaks have, at one time oranother, included the personal information of hundreds of people, including in some cases sick children, rape victims, and mental health patients. there's the question of whetherjudgment is used byjulian assange." well, obviously, judgment is used byjulian assange. we're talking about publications, yes, at scale — he's taken every step and to protect people who were at risk of coming to physical harm. and, in fact, the us government has had to admit under oath that they have not found a single case in which a person has come to physical harm as
investigation. prosecutors say stone downplayed his efforts to get details about stolen democratic emails. emails stolen by russia to influence the election. cnn's crime and justice reporter shimon prokupecz joins me now. so this is the first audio released from this investigation. and prosecutors at least consider it damning. >> they certainly do consider it. it's really their entire case, this audio they say points to the ways in which roger stone was lying to members of congress about his contacts. most significantly in all of this about his contacts and his conversations with members of the trump campaign and then donald trump himself about his activities, about his actions to try and get information on what wikileaks was doing, what information wikileaks had from the hacked emails. and that is the crux of this case. obviously, there's another part of this case that has to do with intimidation and that has to do
having months of communication with wikileaks during the campaign including specifically communications about what kind of anti hillary clinton information wikileaks might be dropping during the campaign that might help donald trump's chances at winning. the only other person other than roger stone we know of that had months of communications with wikileaks is this man. the president's eldest son and name sake donald trump junior. his repeated messages were obtained by a reporter at "the atlanti atlantic" magazine. she reported messages between donald trump junior and wikileaks were turned over to congressional investigators. these communications between donald trump junior and wikileaks started during the presidential campaign and continued after the election and after the inauguration until at least midsummer 2017 which would be long after even trump's hand
become familiar with, the intelligence community has now determined guccifer was a gru operation, part of the information operation that was conducted here in this country in 2016 into the lead-up to the election. so there's really little to no doubt, no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that he was connected with the russians. >> harry, months after russia is directly linked to wikileaks. months after that was publicly known, and months after mueller, you know, says in the indictment that somebody directed a senior campaign official to tell stone to go back to wikileaks, right, so months after these things happen, we hear things like this from donald trump. >> this just came out. this just came out. wikileaks, i love wikileaks. >> this wikileaks stuff is unbelievable. it tells you the inner heart. you gotta read it. >> we have learned so much from wikileaks. >> boy, i love reading those wikileaks. >> is mueller getting closer to
campaign. at this point, paul manafort is running the campaign. certainly today, we spent a lot of the day trying to call these people to see if they believe they're the senior campaign official. they all say no, not us. so the question is, does robert mueller know? we believe he does. and what does he do with that information? does that become a key part of this report that he is going to provide to the attorney general, bill barr, whenever bill barr takes office? or is this something that is, say, for perhaps more court indictments or court filings at a later date. we don't know, but again, erin, i think that paragraph is definitely key into us understanding whatever happened in 2016. and whether or not there was any coordination, illegal coordination between the trump campaign and wikileaks and russia. >> obviously a very important development tonight. evan, thank you. i want to go to the former cia chief of russia operations, phil mudd, and former
>> and there was roger stone. at the courthouse then, stone was defiant. stepping out before cameras after his court appearance. he threw up a pair of peace signs in the air, nixon style. remember, he has nixon tattoo on his back. but the crowd was chanting "lock him up." now in the 24-page indictment, okay, we got it here, which details stone's lies to congress about his efforts to get dirt on hillary clinton from the russian-linked wikileaks and his efforts to get another witness to lie, too, team mueller writes, quote, after the july 22nd, 2016, release of stolen dnc, that's democratic national committee e-mails, by wikileaks, a senior trump campaign official was directed to contact stone about any additional releases and what other damaging information organization one, wikileaks, had regarding the clinton campaign. this is crucial because it's unclear who the senior trump campaign official is who reached out to stone. and the most important words