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Say anything when cain talked about electrifying the border fence. so i think that's a big reason why. it's the policies of the extreme part of their party, but i didn't see, and i don't think any of us saw governor romney really challenge some of those extreme policies. >> i agree with him here with the republicans and the republicans are completely aware of this, karl rove is aware and marco rubio is trying successfully, and i think it will hurt them long term and i don't think it will hurt them this time for historical reasons. when you reelect an incumbent there are two things we know. fir...

About electrifying the border fence. so i think that's a big reason why. it's the policies of the extreme part of their party, but i didn't see, and i don't think any of us saw governor romney really challenge some of those extreme policies. >> i agree with him here with the republicans and the republicans are completely aware of this, karl rove is aware and marco rubio is trying successfully, and i think it will hurt them long term and i don't think it will hurt them this time for historical reasons. when you reelect an incumbent there are two things we know. first, it's a referendum, there a...

About electrifying the border fence. so i think that's a big reason why. it's the policies of the extreme part of their party, but i didn't see, and i don't think any of us saw governor romney really challenge some of those extreme policies. >> i agree with him here with the republicans and the republicans are completely aware of this, karl rove is aware and marco rubio is trying very successfully. i think that will hurt the republicans long-term. i'm not sure it will hurt them this time for historical reasons. when you reelect an incumbent there are two things we know. first, it's a referendu...

There are two things we know. first, it's a referendum, there are rarely choices and the referendum on the record of the last four years and not the personality of the candidates and so that, when you take that basic structure of reelect races that does hurt obama and then the final thing is when you ask people are you better off than four years ago? 35% say yes and that's pretty bad. >> let me go around the table on a few other items that i wanted to get to quickly. that is in wisconsin, we called election in milwaukee mayor, tom barrett taking on scott walker who took on the unions and now y...