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Sanctions. eventually we need to make it hurt for them. >> that's right. pete: we have heard about these chinese banks and how significant they are to the state there how far are we in sanctioning them? >> well, we did -- we made initial steps for a number of banks and a number of individuals. but those -- the probable here, pete, is time. those sanctions take time to actually have an effect. we need from a diplomatic stapght to get others on board. europeans and other asian countries to have an effect. at the same time though we are on the clock. the north koreans only need to get an icbm cap...

Maybe longer. that sort of advanced technology to be able to miniaturize a nuclear peace, ballistic missile, not a problem, they already have 1,000 missiles. they export missiles on a regular basis to iran, pakistan. they are good at missile development, despite the failures. the challenge at intercontinental missiles, there is a reentry problem we have to have. >> martha: our cyber ability, there has been a lot of speculation that perhaps that is what has made some of their recent missile tests unsuccessful, we have somehow been able to intervene in them. does that work to slow them down? to ...

Back. this reentry problem, where people are told to get out, but then they come back n. that seems to be another major hole in the system. >> yeah, there's no enforcement provisions there, where specifically somebody, if they are deported or voluntarily deported, that they're checked on to see when they come back in. in fact the spokesperson for the sheriff's department was unclear, vague b. it, saying he might have voluntarily deported himself, we're not certain if he actually left or if he did leave and then reentered the country to reoffend again. that's so upsetting and victims' rights ad...